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Ruckus1027 Light Duty Poster
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| Subject: new questions March 14th 2007, 5:29 pm | |
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alrighty so theres a possible motor that i am looking at 96 kade...guy said condition is good, he was a nissan tech, so he said he took care of it, plus it was an automatic..so heres my dillemma...the package comes with everything except for the harness....i have a kade 93 manual...what should i do??? could i use the old harness and just run the old ecu as well..is that even legal or possible haha lol
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sorry i didnt want to start a new thread but i am thinkin about my turbo...im lookin to run 7psi as i have said and have a few turbos in mind...(t25,t28)..someone suggested a 1st gen eclipse turbo...my question is what kinda manifold would i need to use with that....and what complications might i run into??
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slidewayz240sx Light Duty Poster
Number of posts : 162 Age : 34 Location : Naples Florida/ Champaign Illinois Vehicle : 1995 Nissan 240sx Reputation : 0
| Subject: Re: new questions March 14th 2007, 6:17 pm | |
| I dont believe having a big FMIC will contribute to lag. But having a big turbo will contribute to what we like to call "turbo lag". | |
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Ruckus1027 Light Duty Poster
Number of posts : 108 Age : 37 Location : lombard Vehicle : avenger, 240sx Reputation : 0
| Subject: Re: new questions March 14th 2007, 6:21 pm | |
| well im not sure...coz he said that there's more space to fill when the turbo does kick in...then i tought about it, it kinda makes sense...i dont know lol | |
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Nachtmensch whatever
Number of posts : 11761 Age : 37 Location : IL Vehicle : MRS, IS350 Reputation : 48
| Subject: Re: new questions March 14th 2007, 8:59 pm | |
| a intercooler that is too large will create lag. yes. | |
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Ruckus1027 Light Duty Poster
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| Subject: Re: new questions March 14th 2007, 9:22 pm | |
| oh ok...well is mine too large?? | |
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Nachtmensch whatever
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| Subject: Re: new questions March 14th 2007, 9:38 pm | |
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Ruckus1027 Light Duty Poster
Number of posts : 108 Age : 37 Location : lombard Vehicle : avenger, 240sx Reputation : 0
| Subject: Re: new questions March 14th 2007, 10:22 pm | |
| well what exactly do i measure coz i measured end to end was about 33in i think if i remember correctly then top to bottom was 13in i think...3in deep | |
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Nackers Post Enthusiast
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| Subject: Re: new questions March 14th 2007, 10:53 pm | |
| So its 33x13x3.
In that case, its probably too big.
But I'm not sure what your friend was reffering to is necessarily called lag. I think its just a pressure drop to where your turbo is pushing say 7psi into the intercooler, but when it gets inside and expands, you loose boost pressure so by the time the intake plenum sees it, its like 5psi. But this is expected from most any setup to have some boost loss through the intercooler. If you really want to run the intercooler, you could hook a pressure line up before the intercooler, boost and see what you have, then cap it off and check from the other side of the intercooler. Figure your drop, and adjust accordingly so your motor is actually seeing your 7psi. (btw, I'm just pullin numbers out of my ass just for explanation).
But if I was in your shoes and assuming your going to be running a small turbo at 7 psi, you would be just fine running a smaller core. Something like a stock SR, dsm, etc side mount intercooler (SMIC). Though if your wanting to run a really big turbo at 7psi, the larger core would be able to flow and cool all the extra air. But of course with more air you need more fuel and that brings more power. And for more power, you need stronger than stock parts with lower compression so it can last you.
But another thing to think about, everyone always says they aren't going to run a lot of boost, but anyone who's ever had it can agreee, its adictive. And just like any addiction, it takes more and more to get the same rush. I'd definatly keep it in storage if you can. | |
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Ruckus1027 Light Duty Poster
Number of posts : 108 Age : 37 Location : lombard Vehicle : avenger, 240sx Reputation : 0
| Subject: Re: new questions March 14th 2007, 10:57 pm | |
| alright...i guess im goin to a smic...im keepin this tho...coz i know by next summer im boostin more...for this summer my goal is just 7psi...thanks guys | |
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D*S Dstar *********
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| Subject: Re: new questions March 14th 2007, 11:01 pm | |
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Rated240R Official Chef
Number of posts : 666 Age : 51 Location : Chi-town Vehicle : 1991 Nissan 240sx Reputation : 2
| Subject: Re: new questions March 15th 2007, 9:04 am | |
| ^ Brilliant..... If ya need a smaller intercooler I have a dsm side mount for sale. Cheap. Also if your interested, I am taking my stock sr smic off this weekend to put my new fmic on. Don't need the old stuff so hit me up. Angel rated240r@hotmail.com773-567-5224 | |
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Ruckus1027 Light Duty Poster
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| Subject: Re: new questions March 15th 2007, 9:05 am | |
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Stab Master Sharson Straight outta Locash
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| Subject: Re: new questions March 15th 2007, 10:20 am | |
| thats why ppl get the whole v-mount setup.... that way u get kinda the same air flow but with the radiator acting as a ramp for fresh air it forces air to the ic and at the same time theres less piping so less pressure lost..... | |
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Ruckus1027 Light Duty Poster
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| Subject: Re: new questions March 15th 2007, 10:48 am | |
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tyler Post Whore
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| Subject: Re: new questions March 15th 2007, 12:15 pm | |
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A-Town-SR Post Enthusiast
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| Subject: Re: new questions March 15th 2007, 4:01 pm | |
| Id say keep it boost is fuckin addictive bro you may say now your gonna leave it at 7psi but you wont bro i gaurentee it | |
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Ruckus1027 Light Duty Poster
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| Subject: Re: new questions March 15th 2007, 4:09 pm | |
| yea i guess ill keep it..for now ill just buy like a smic errr as soon as i find a motor... | |
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Rated240R Official Chef
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| Subject: Re: new questions March 15th 2007, 5:49 pm | |
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Ruckus1027 Light Duty Poster
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| Subject: Re: new questions March 15th 2007, 5:54 pm | |
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Rated240R Official Chef
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| Subject: Re: new questions March 15th 2007, 6:27 pm | |
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Ruckus1027 Light Duty Poster
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| Subject: Re: new questions March 16th 2007, 12:53 am | |
| alrighty so theres a possible motor that i am looking at 96 kade...guy said condition is good, he was a nissan tech, so he said he took care of it, plus it was an automatic..so heres my dillemma...the package comes with everything except for the harness....i have a kade 93 manual...what should i do??? could i use the old harness and just run the old ecu as well..is that even legal or possible haha lol | |
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Jesse Graduated Hipster
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| Subject: Re: new questions March 16th 2007, 1:07 am | |
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sorry i didnt want to start a new thread but i am thinkin about my turbo...im lookin to run 7psi as i have said and have a few turbos in mind...(t25,t28)..someone suggested a 1st gen eclipse turbo...my question is what kinda manifold would i need to use with that....and what complications might i run into?? Eclipse turbo is T25, with fucking up exhaust outlet...u can use any manifold with a t25 flange but it will be alot of custom work to plumb the intake and exhaust outlets. ur better off lookin for ar t25 of an sr | |
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Ruckus1027 Light Duty Poster
Number of posts : 108 Age : 37 Location : lombard Vehicle : avenger, 240sx Reputation : 0
| Subject: Re: new questions March 16th 2007, 1:28 pm | |
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sorry i didnt want to start a new thread but i am thinkin about my turbo...im lookin to run 7psi as i have said and have a few turbos in mind...(t25,t28)..someone suggested a 1st gen eclipse turbo...my question is what kinda manifold would i need to use with that....and what complications might i run into?? Eclipse turbo is T25, with fucking up exhaust outlet...u can use any manifold with a t25 flange but it will be alot of custom work to plumb the intake and exhaust outlets.
ur better off lookin for ar t25 of an sr oh ok yea thanks man... | |
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davidricardo86 Light Duty Poster
Number of posts : 160 Age : 37 Location : Chicago Vehicle : 92 S13 SE Coupe Reputation : 0
| Subject: Re: new questions March 17th 2007, 2:39 am | |
| Ill give you my advice just because i want to help out.
If you want to run "7psi and a different intercooler," do so. Its you project, but just make sure youre doing it right. Usually theres too little or too much of something. Tuning requires skill. As you gain experience you become better. Just like anything else. Id research as much as you can so later you are better prepared to handle any situation.
As for the your KA question goes, i believe its possible to use the old harness and ecu but some emissions control devices wont be connected like the second oxygen sensor. You said its a 96 so we can assume its OBDII. Mechanically the 91-94 and 95-98 KA are pretty much identical. The older KAs had external coil distributors and the newer ones are internal. You should check out Nico, Zilvia, 24osxforums, etc etc. Look for similar posts to what youre trying to do. Also try and see if you could track an FSM for both years. | |
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Ruckus1027 Light Duty Poster
Number of posts : 108 Age : 37 Location : lombard Vehicle : avenger, 240sx Reputation : 0
| Subject: Re: new questions March 17th 2007, 3:28 am | |
| yea man i decided not to get it...i thought it would have been too much hassle to mess with....ill just wait to find a good running one... | |
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